Short notice – I know!
I’m speaking. Yeah I know…….
On what? Humanitarian OpenStreetMap. Yeah I know……..
Read up more at: http://www.cumberlandurisa.org/
Short notice – I know!
I’m speaking. Yeah I know…….
On what? Humanitarian OpenStreetMap. Yeah I know……..
Read up more at: http://www.cumberlandurisa.org/
Yeah – It’s been a while since I’ve talked about OSM. I’ve been busier than normal – and it’s a good thing. I don’t have a lot of time to “learn” or “play” with much of anything. I’ve helped a bit with the MapLesotho and I’ve done a few other special projects but I’ve more or less just been hands off with OpenStreetMap.
So with what little bit of free time I’ve had I’ve popped open JOSM and started moving roads to their “close enough to right” location using the BING imagery in East Tennessee. It’s fun work if I get a spare 30 minutes and can make some quick edits. I call it my fidget spinning for a mapping guy.
It’s amazing how bad the roads are…and the major water bodies. There are some major roads which have been corrected. About all the residential roads haven’t. I’m not entirely sure how I’m going to name a lot of the roads. It’s slowly getting fixed. Overall East TN is much improved but it needs more improvement.
In all of this I’ve had a couple of people want to get involved – so I’m slowly dragging them into the OSM world. I’m a bit torn as I’m hesitant to say “join the mailing lists”. As I haven’t and won’t.
The big thing I did notice – Digital Globe Imagery. In JOSM/ID you have access to it. It’s newer in many cases than the bing imagery – although the resolution isn’t as good. Except – I can live with that because I’m finding new building construction. I’m finding new road construction. So my edits will be more current.
Of course I need to get back into some form of community involvement. At one time I had a blurb on my business website on OSM and how to get involved locally. At some point we started a Facebook group that has fallen into 3 years of no posts. Soooo – it’s starting back up as a place to post information. Maybe at some point I’ll also find that wiki page I started and add to it.
I’ve been attempting to get better with PostGIS. I’ve also been trying to take baby steps back into the world of OpenStreetMap. I’ve also been trying to take baby steps back into my City’s Open Data Initiative.
Why? I’ve been away for long enough – plus – never quit learning.
I’ve only so many hours in a day. To be honest with my attempts at getting back outdoors and doing things that interest me, I’ve more or less stopped a lot of side projects. With the weather currently being disagreeable to most things outdoors I’ve decided to start diving back into a few things I’ve left hanging.
The OpenStreetMap group here in town is a bit hit or miss. We have a high school that maps. We have a few people diving in here and there. There’s no coordination to the madness and I tried, as did a few of us, to coordinate some of it. I finally gave up. So I do a *few* things in OpenStreetMap here locally but not much.
I made a decision to:
Fixing roads is a bit of a chore. I hate touching interstates because I don’t understand the relations involved. There’s probably some “OSM Roads” email list but I just don’t want to get that committed. I’m happier working by myself for a bit or in smaller groups. I’ve also never took a look at the road names in OSM – I’ve worried with alignment but never “names”. About the time I was moving back into Chattanooga mom called, “They changed two road names in the neighborhood!”. I actually think road names had been changing for a while in the county as the County GIS department did their best to clean up confusing road names for 911 purposes. I *think* this data is then fed to the city or maybe the city is changing road names at the same time. Whatever the case – names are changing and it’s already fixed in Google Maps.
Chattanooga has an open data portal. I’ve been randomly mucking around looking at data and found the Chattanooga city addresses. I also found that they’ve already been donated to the openaddresses project. I downloaded them and loaded them into PostGIS. There are 102761 points. Each has a street address. I grabbed the roads from OSM and the city boundary from the open data portal. Through series of maneuvers in SQL that would horrify the more well educated – I actually compared the two and built some foreign keys and other things to make joins easier. Through that my favorite color scheme in the world – Red Green. Green is right as far as I can tell and Red isn’t.
What I did find:
Of course the big question is “Is the cities address data correct?”. As a GIS person I say Yes. As a guy that has worked in GIS for 25 years now I’ll say “probably because I’ve talked to no one over addressing”. So I’ve making a list and print it out and over the coarse of the next few months I’m going to inspect many of the things I’m seeing as wrong. There are three on the way to my parent’s house. I’ll probably even hassle the city/county a bit for information. I’d like to get them more involved if at all possible.
Why fix it? Why not. OSM is enough of a force that it should get fixed – BUT – as GIS people our attention is diverted by what the clients use. You never hear someone say “Well I was using OSM to find my way to the mall…..” it’s usually “Google It” or “what does Google/Waze/Something else say”. It’s not that hard to fix problems once you have a list.
Anyway – more on this as the months progress. This will most likely occur “as time permits”.
Probably the funniest thing that happened to me this year – and there were several – was the car incident. I was driving along with the child of a friend and I missed the street on which they lived. No big deal since I had 2 more turns I could make. She turned and looked at me and got excited “WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU MISSED THE TURN”. I know – I’ll catch the next one. “YOU…YOU….YOU’RE AN IDIOT”. I laughed and that didn’t help the situation – the kid just got more upset.
So Monday I called someone an asshole on a talk list on OSM. A diversity talk list. So yeah….I sent it and in my head I was screaming at myself “YOU’RE AN IDIOT”. I won’t get into the details much.
It’s the problem on any wiki type environment. The problems on Wikipedia are well known. OpenStreetMap has the same problem. Atanas The Geohipster has asked me to comment on the state of Geo and make some predictions for 2015. Last year NRGS predicted:
Neither was glaringly right and I would argue mostly wrong….sorta. If you look at the state of OSM licensing – yeah it’s a mess in my opinion. The fact that the data is ODBL licensed and the last email I saw can’t accept ODBL licensed data….well. People are jumping the commercial opportunities. Look at Mapbox. Steve Coast is trying to kickstart a book on OSM. OSM is pretty high on itself currently. That’s Good.
The problem is the community. I don’t think there is one ……well much of one. It could be my inherent problem with not being involved enough – but I’ve got this day job. I have noticed the more involved you get the more likely you are to suffer outburst from users. It’s not every one. It’s a few people. 90% of the people who work in OSM are good and passionate. There are the 10% though…. that other 10% are there. 90% of the time I’m happy with what I’m doing – but those 10% times overshadow the good. It’s gotten more civil over the last year since NRGS went through this blowup…but still. I don’t believe for a second we had anything to do with the civility getting better. I think it just happened. There are people – good people – working on a Code of Conduct. It’s needed. I broke that by screaming asshole.
Do I want to be involved in it? If I’m able to get so upset I call someone as asshole on a list… There’s enough stupid going around these days….we live in a stressful environment. I’ve got plenty of places to rage. I broke my personal rule on threatening to quit. You don’t threaten – you just quit.
I want to believe I can drag people into OSM and have them map the things they want to map…and do something good with the outcome. Except it’s gonna involve me getting bent out of shape and calling someone something. I know me. I can’t stand bullying behavior…and I used to do it online. I’m good at it. I was well known in my past job for burning people on email. That’s probably why I was so quick to scream this week. I should turn the other cheek and walk away….but…..
For me currently HOT is the only desirable chunk of OSM. It works. It’s community mapping Community and something good is coming out of the data. Do I digitize for HOT? not enough. Very little actually. I’m more interested in my neighborhood most of the time.
…and I’m finding a hard time believing I need to be there. Like today. I need less stress in my life. I really do. I left my last job because of stress. I need more good things. Less “You’re an idiot”. Really. I don’t believe I’m inherently right on anything. . I’m wrong more than right. I don’t suffer yelling though.
With that – I turn off comments because I don’t need comments. I’m venting.
I’ll figure it out – but for now I’m taking a break from OSM for a bit. I hate it because I’ve got work coming up and OSM plays a role in it. Maybe OSM gets relegated to work and not fun from here on out. I’ve burned too much time in two days worrying about it.
Momma and Patrick Swayze said be nice. I wasn’t. Momma would be horrified I used the word asshole in public and didn’t spell it out like most of the family learned to do. Except A double S hole doesn’t always come to mind when I’m mad.
So I really don’t like GIS day. I’ve made it a point to not participate probably for the last 5 years..and this year I’m bowing to pressure and speaking at one event…and as soon as my coordinator gets back to me I’m announcing a Post GIS Day event. I’m more pumped about the postGIS Day event.
But one email did catch my eye on OpenStreetMap. They’ve got a plan for Geography week and it’s starting to take shape. So I’ll just repost the email here and let you start making plans. From Mikel Maron to the HOT/Talk-US List.
Hungry for maps? Join teachers, students, community groups, and map lovers around the world as we come together to celebrate geography and OpenStreetMap.
Geography Awareness Week is November 16-22, with GIS Day on November 19. Working with National Geographic Society, we’re promoting OSM in Education, with events held at colleges universities, clubs and groups around the globe. On Friday, November 21st, National Geographic will be hosting the flagship OpenStreetMap mapping party, based on this year’s theme, “The Future of Food.” We’re working on food related mapping projects and mapping guides … mapping farmers markets, agricultural areas in developed and developing countries, food pantries. More details on http://osmgeoweek.org/. And we’ll be launching the first version of http://teachosm.org/ (still in development), guides for bringing OSM into the classroom. We’re working for these events to make a big splash, and will be developing visualizations and tools to track all the activity.
I’m headed to California. For those of you in Northern California – NorCal URISA is hosting a OpenStreetMap Workshop.
Learn About OpenStreetMap at Workshop
An educational workshop on OpenStreetMap, a crowd-sourced computer mapping project, will be presented on September 30, 2014, at the West Sacramento Civic Center Galleria.OpenStreetMap is a free and open-source map of the world which relies on contributions from the public. The map is freely available for use in a variety of mapping applications. This workshop will be taught by Randal Hale of North River Geographic System, Inc. and is certified by the Urban and Regional Information Systems Association, a non-profit professional organization of Geographic Information Systems (GIS) practitioners. It is open to anyone interested in free and open source GIS software. Participants will learn about the history and current state of the project, how to add-to and edit the map’s information, and how to download the map data for use in a GIS.
The workshop will run from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and lunch will be included. It is offered free to members of the Northern California Chapter of URISA; non-members will be charged $40. Participants must provide their own laptop computer. More information on this workshop with a link for online registration may be found at http://norcalurisa.org. More information about OpenStreetMap may be found at http://openstreetmap.org.
I repeat – it’s free if you are a NorCal Member…which I think is nuts. Christina Boggs will be co-instructing. I’m flying in on the 29th and heading out on October 1st. Yell if you are in the area.
As part of the fun I’m teaching a workshop – and yes out of everything I’m doing an OpenStreetMap one. I co-wrote on for URISA and that one seems to have gained a life of it’s own. Since I signed away rights on that one to URISA – I’ve doing one that’s quite a bit different. When you register – please sign up to take it!
This OSM workshop is going to be a bit more hands on and aimed at the GIS professional that wants to work with the data. So what are we covering? Well – about half the day is going to be “hands on”. How Hands on? Bring some walking shoes and a pencil. You’re going to be burning up some shoe leather. When we come back we are going to be entering the data and discussing why you collected what you collected. The last part of the day is going to be comparing that to a county’s GIS data and how you can leverage this data to enhance your Geospatial Information System.
Bring a laptop. Bring a sense of humour. Prepare to talk and most importantly prepare to explore down town Athens in a way no other conference attendee will get the chance to do.
This might turn into a Part II to the URISA one – or it’s going to be a standalone offering of NRGS…or I’m going to open source it for everyone to use. Haven’t decided how this one plays out.
Please come take it. It will be interesting.
I was sitting around the other day and realized something – My most attended conference is this one I think. This will be my 5th one and I think that either edges out TNGIC or ties it. Which is sorta funny since I’m actually getting tired of conferences in general.
So Georgia URISA holds a conference every two years. This year (as in 2010) I’ll be representing Midsouth ASPRS and GA URISA. It’s a good conference and I don’t say that often. It’s statewide….and we’ve even had people coming down from Canada for this….so nationwide. I’m going, I’m teaching, and I’m presenting.
I’m actually teaching an OSM workshop. I wrote one for URISA which is getting quite a bit of traction. This one is a bit different in that I may have 40ish slides to cover the whole day. We’re going to work, map, and go out and see how OSM works. I’m going to try at the last part of the day to show how you can leverage this data in your GIS operations. I’ve got a complete dataset for the county where the conference will be held….and we will at the end of the day compare and contrast with OSM.
So from the email bag – please attend:
Georgia URISA, ASPRS Mid South, SAMSOG and GITA Southeast are joining together again for the Georgia Geospatial Conference of 2014 to be held October 6th-8th at the Classic Center in downtown Athens.
Participants are welcome from federal, state, local governments; academic; private sector; non-profit and international organizations.
If you are a practitioner, student, or otherwise interested, in the fields of geographic information systems or surveying, please make plans to attend the largest geospatial conference in Georgia. For three days, you will have the chance to network with peers, share projects and ideas, and learn. On October 6th, there will be pre-conference workshops. On October 7th and 8th, you will hear from leaders in the GIS and Surveying fields with practitioners sharing papers and presentations. On Tuesday night we will have a social. On Tuesday, we are also having an afternoon session devoted to future leaders in the GIS field: students.
Member Early Bird Costs
Full Day Workshop – $225
Half Day Workshop (does not include lunch) – $125
Conference Registration – $275
Conference Registration One Day – $150
Non-Member Early Bird Costs
Full Day Workshop – $250
Half Day Workshop (does not include lunch) – $150
Conference Registration – $325
Conference Registration One Day – $200
Full Day Workshop – $100
Half Day Workshop (does not include lunch) – $50
Conference Registration – $100
Conference Registration One Day – $50
Sponsor / Exhibitor Pricing
Bronze – $500 Social Sponsor Only
Silver Exhibitor – $750 Member, $1000 non-member
Gold Exhibitor – $1000 Member, $1250 non-member
Platinum Exhibitor – $1250 member, $1500 non-member (limited to 12 exhibitor booths)
*Additional Registration for Members of Exhibitor’s Organization- $200 each
I started seeing the announcements show up at some point last week on linkedin and then I think a few tweets. I probably knew osmplus was a “thing”. It has a great three point splash page:
I like the title of the third bullet – You’re not alone.
I’ve been dealing with OSM for a while. To the point I’m more concerned with adding to the map than I am with interacting with the community. We did that a while back and essentially caused enough strife and grief on both ends to – well – It leaves me finding the idea of OSMPlus is be rather humorous.
Everyone it seems is looking for a way to make money off OpenStreetMap. I could recite a list longer than my arm on why OSM is a great thing. I could recite another on why it’s no worse or better than anyone else. It actually reminds me of the “year of the linux desktop” articles that you see every year.
It would be interesting to go to see what gets promised and who who shows up….It’s hard to make promises with a volunteer army.
Anyway – June 30th 2014 is the date. San Francisco is the place.
First question “Am I going?” Answer: “Dunno”.
We’re happy to announce that the 2014 State of the Map US conference will take place inWashington DC at the Convention Center April 12 and 13.
Plan to join us to connect with other mappers, learn how to work with OpenStreetMap data, and hack on the latest OpenStreetMap improvement. Connect with other OpenStreetMap users from an amazing ecosystem of enthusiast mappers, businesses, government agencies, and non profits, all collaborating around the free and editable map of the world.
Our main conference will feature a series of sessions on OpenStreetMap case studies from community, business, government and non profit sector. We will focus on technology, mapping parties, ideas and tools to help improve the map, and much more. Check out last year’s schedule for an idea of what’s in store.
Expect the conference web site, registration and a public call for session proposals to go out soon. Got something exciting to share about OpenStreetMap? We’d love to have you as a speaker. Watch this blog, the talk-us list, and @sotmus on Twitter for updates.
State of the Map US is designed to bring together the many individuals, organizations, and companies who make up the OpenStreetMap community – so expect to reconnect with and meet new mappers through hallway conversations, coffee breaks, and evening drinks and social events.
Like at the last conference, there will be an extra day to get together, sit down, and get work done. On Monday April 14, we’ll provide a space for a day of hacking, plotting, improving today’s tools and inventing tomorrow’s – you name it.
We want State of the Map US to be accessible to all community members. To help we’ll be offering scholarships for contributors who need an extra hand to make it to Washington DC.
If you’d like to lend a hand shaping the event, get in touch and let us know. Right now we’re specifically looking to staff up our programming committee, but we’re also building up a list of helping hands for during the conference. Help make this an awesome conference.
We’re looking forward to seeing you at State of the Map US 2014 in Washington DC. Stay tuned here, to the talk-us list, @sotmus for the call for proposals, scholarship information, and other announcements and updates.
Registration is open: head over to the web site and and register today at the early bird rate.
To get in touch with us please call or email. We look forward to hearing from you.